Terri Marie: Well, that was a very interesting and insightful answer as always, John. And I’m always happy to hear what you have to say about the questions that — I’m thinking and I’m hoping other people are thinking. That brings me to another question. There’s been some talk about and people are looking are looking for a purpose in life. But some say that there is no purpose in life. We create our purpose. What do you believe about that?
John Harricharan: It’s similar to when people ask me What is the meaning of life? and I say life doesn’t have any meaning and they are shocked — absolutely shocked. Because everyone thinks that life has meaning. No, life has no meaning. We bring meaning to life. Life has no purpose except to live it as brilliantly as possible. We bring purpose to life.
It’s like having a bunch of an artist with a bunch of paint. He has his paint brushes and has little things of paint. And there is a big canvas in front of him, and he sits back and he looks at the brush or the brushes. And he looks at his little containers of paint. And he looks at the canvas and he says, “What is the meaning of this canvas? What is the meaning of the paint? They really by themselves have no special meaning. But as he takes his brush, he puts it into the paint and he starts painting on the canvas, out comes a beautiful picture. There could be a painting of the Mona Lisa or any of the great artists could have produced that.
The meaning is in the thing produced and what we bring to it. The artist brought an invisible part of himself, which flowed through the paint, through the canvas. And there is something, which although it’s a painting would influence hundreds and thousands of people forever more. So, so it is with a purpose.
We dont run around looking for a purpose in life, because the more we do so the more we get it mixed up like the little fish in the ocean. Can you imagine the bunch of little fishes around the big mummy and daddy fish saying, “Can we go find some water, numerous water? We have heard of this great place where there is so much water. We’d like to go. Mummy and daddy fish, can you take us little baby fishes along the search for this great adventure for water?
It is as almost as ridiculous as that, because our purpose is all around us. The very fact that we are here, the very fact that we breathe, we exist, that is purpose. And I think just to simplify it and put a little laughter into it . The purpose of life is to live it as brilliantly as beautifully as possible.
Terri Marie: And you just gave a brilliant answer to the question, John. Thanks once again. And I loved the little fishy story. All right. You have got into me some superheroes in life and become good friends with them, for instance, Elizabeth Kubler-Ross and Foster Hibbard. What did you learn from maybe Elizabeth or Foster that youd like to share with the listeners?
John Harricharan: Another question, Terri Marie, which has been asked to me a lot of times. People have said, Oh, my goodness. You must have learnt so much from all these great people in there. Absolutely right, except its not a one-way street. And I would like to rephrase that and said, We all learn from each other. And some of the things I learned were very interesting.
I think what are the most important things I learned from the great people I have met is how human they are, how very much like you and me and everyone else. They are subject to the same forces and same laws of the universe as everyone else. They hurt. They laugh. They cry. They sing. They play. They are happy. They are sad. But there was something else in them that I did not find in the ordinary person.
They had decided to serve, to help others, to love unconditionally, to give up what they think would bring them a lot of good and do things in the service of others. Foster Hibbard was certainly such a person. He would serve people. He would help people. And in doing so he precipitated the tremendously powerful law — The Law of Giving and Receiving, because it says, in as much as you give so shall you receive. You cannot, just as it’s true that you cannot receive without giving, you cannot give without receiving .
And so that made Foster Hibbard a fortune. It put him in touch with some of the other great people. And do you know he went to school, his — one of his schooling or schools, some of his classmates were people or schoolmates were people like Jack Lemmon, some of the Rockefellers, the first President, Bush, and others. That’s the type of people he was led to. And he was a very ordinary person, but yet extraordinary in what he had done with his spirit.
So it was with Elizabeth Kubler-Ross. Elizabeth was my friend for many, many years until she passed on a few years ago. She was a wonderful, wonderful lady who brought so much understanding in this world to the thought of dying; the way people treat it, dying people. And she brought dignity to that and made a total change to the entire hospice situation at the United States. So much so, that her book, the seminal “On Death and Dying” has become required reading of almost all good medical schools on earth, if you will. And so, Elisabeth and I sort of met many years ago through another friend of mine, Brad Steiger, who is an author of over a 150 books.
And in a, kind of, a network with these people we find — we found is that we liked one another, that we loved the same life of firmers and disliked the same life destroyers that we wanted to help people, but not by telling, actually by showing and doing. Because some of the people I have met and know and this includes people like — you mentioned before Foster Hibbard, who was an associate of the great Dr. Napoleon Hill, people like Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Deepak Chopra and many others, Dan Millman.
They all seem to have this desire to look into the future and bring some joy to the current situation in the life of human beings. And thats what I learned from them. They are just like I am. I am just like they are. And that they dont teach and I dont teach. We all learn. We generally meet people for one of two reasons and maybe a combination, which is even better.
One is to teach them something the other is to learn something from them, or the better of the two, the combination of the two, which is to learn and teach. Somewhere in there is an answer to what you ask me.